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Tucker Carlson calls it deceptive. Candace Owens thinks it’s “wonderful” to finally debate it. Ian Carroll, a fringe content creator on the rise, is going viral by saying Jews hatched it.

They’re referring to the Scofield Bible, a widely influential 1909 edition that added commentary alongside the Scriptures. In his note on Genesis 12:3 — “I will bless them that bless thee” — Scofield wrote: “It has invariably fared ill with the people who have persecuted the Jew — well with those who have protected him. The future will still more remarkably prove this principle.”

In other words, Scofield was saying that history shows God punishes those who harm the Jewish people and blesses those who protect them, framing antisemitism as a violation of God’s will.

So, why bring up a hundred-year-old Bible now? And why is that one-off comment so notable?

For starters, this loose coalition of anti-Israel (and often openly antisemitic) influencers believes the Scofield Bible brainwashed the 70 percent of evangelicals who currently support Israel — with many pointing to that one line as evidence. Of course, they ignore that support for a Jewish return to Israel goes back hundreds of years in Protestant history, long before the Scofield Bible.

In America, the largest bloc of support for Israel comes from Evangelicals. It’s not hard to see that the anti-Israel coalition on the right wants to reduce this support by using social media clips and videos to appeal to young Evangelicals. The attack on the Scofield Bible, and in a greater sense, pro-Israel values, is just one way to divide them.

Even the American Conservative — a major isolationist outlet on the right that has recently aligned with the anti-Israel movement and figures like Tucker Carlson — made this argument openly in a recent article titled “What Would Jesus Do?” The piece claimed that “well-meaning Christians” were “misled” by Scofield into supporting Israel.

The claim that the Scofield Bible was Jewish-funded propaganda is meant to portray Evangelicals as pawns, manipulated by Jews and Zionists. (In reality, the man who published the Scofield Bible through Oxford University Press was simply a Bible publisher, not some operative funded by Zionists to publish Scofield. He printed many editions of the Bible, not just Scofield’s.)

And in an even broader sense, the effort aims to make Evangelicals question their own history and biblical foundations. As part of that effort, the fringe right has begun promoting a revised version of major world events — like World War II — not as a fight between good and evil, but as a hidden war against Christians.

They assert that the bombings of Dresden and Hiroshima were not merely acts of war, but deliberate assaults on Christian populations. It seems like the goal here is to cast doubt on even the most established historical narratives, softening the ground for more fringe claims, like the Scofield Bible being a Zionist plot.

In tying this idea to the present, the anti-Israel right also frames Evangelical support for Israel as a betrayal of Christians abroad by cherry-picking — or in some cases, outright inventing — instances where Christian misfortune can be tied to Zionism.

There’s a noticeable silence about the global persecution of Christians, as most of it is committed by Islamists. But when they can blame Zionism, they can claim that American support for Israel comes at the cost of Christian suffering.

These ideas have only accelerated since October 7, 2023. And this faction on the right is influential and growing.

I spoke with Luke Moon, founder of the Philos Project — an organization uniting Christians at home and abroad and advocating for pluralism in the Middle East — about this trend.

Ari: I’ve been seeing all over online and on the fringe right — from people like Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens — they're all upset with Christians in America who support Israel.

They're talking about theories like Evangelicals being manipulated by a Rothschild-funded Scofield Bible or accusing them of blindly following foreign governments and neocons agendas pushing for war.

There's a lot going on, and I know you've thought about this. Can you briefly describe the situation as you see it?

Luke: Yeah, I mean, aside from the calls I’ve gotten from the Rothschilds, Bilderbergers, and the Illuminati — just kidding — it’s a real issue. What’s surprising is how fast it’s gone from fringe to more mainstream.

Nick Fuentes was always on the outer edge of discourse, but now, with Candace and Tucker, these views are becoming more accepted on the right.

A few years ago, the Goyim Defense League was distributing antisemitic flyers. That kind of ideology has now crept into parts of the conservative world. Just last week, I talked to a conservative guy who casually brought up that Pornhub was founded by a Jew. I asked, “Have you checked out the Irish or French?” — I mean, people are people.

(Editors note: It was not founded by a Jew)

Luke: There’s this weird obsession with Jews that’s become more normalized than I expected.

Ari: I agree. There was a time when Nick Fuentes seemed like just a staunch America First guy with some antisemitic undertones. But then, the mask came off. Now, they're openly attacking Christians in America who support Israel — especially Evangelicals.

What’s the goal? Is it to divide Christians and weaken support for Israel?

Luke: Yes, exactly. Christian support for Israel is the last major line of support. The left has largely dropped that support — LGBT groups, Black progressives, etc., especially after October 7. If they can undermine the Christians, then they can isolate Israel completely.

Could Qatar or other countries be funding this messaging? Maybe. But even if not, it’s clear they want to break that last line of defense.

Ari: One of their arguments is that Christians support Israel because of the Scofield Bible, which they claim was manipulated by Jews to brainwash Christians.

But the reality is that Christian Zionism predates that. Can you explain where the actual roots of that support come from?

Luke: Yeah. Christian Zionism is older than 1948. Many Christian pastors believed the restoration of Israel was a significant biblical event — similar to the Jews returning from Babylon.

In fact, a Christian pastor who became friends with Herzl helped push the Zionist movement. He was the only non-Jew at the first Zionist Congress. So it’s not just about Schofield or Darby. Most Christians in America don’t even follow those theologies.

Polls show that 70–80 percent of older Evangelicals support Israel. Even among Gen Z, it’s still above 50 percent.

I personally don’t own a Scofield Bible. I recently thought of buying one just to see what the fuss was about — apparently, it’s the source of all my Zionism!

Ari: I looked into that, too. Tucker’s first dive into this topic was maybe eight months ago when he posted a video asking if the Scofield Bible brainwashed Christians into supporting Zionism.

Another argument is that Christians in America are betraying their own people by not focusing on Christians suffering in Israel or the Middle East. But those same critics aren't talking about Christians being massacred elsewhere. What's your take on that?

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Denver Fergerson1 year ago

I used to get all my news from Tucker. He is very conservative and entertaining with his personality, so I paid for a subscription for his news briefings everyday and his interviews. I enjoyed his briefings for a while, until he started to talk about Israel some. He made it very clear he was not a big fan. He would often refer to Netanyahu as pretty much a leech sucking our tax money. I cancelled my subscription soon after. As a Christian, I fully support Israel, and I think our nation should as well. The Bible has made us very clear (Genesis 12:3) that it is in our best interest to have their back. We have been very prosperous and blessed as a nation, and I don’t believe that’s just because we are a democracy. I believe it that God has blessed our nation. Thankfully the current administration supports Israel, and Trump has a good relationship with them.

God bless America and Israel!! 🇺🇸🇮🇱

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Monty Mickle1 year ago

Right on and amen!

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Laney B1 year ago

A Spirit-filled believer, firmly founded in the word of God, is NOT swayed or deluded by Tucker, Candace, Ian, OR a Bible with somebody's "name" on it.

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Jamie Baker1 year ago

The Israel state, just like any other is not perfect. It is ran by flawed sinful people just like myself and everyone else. However, Gods word is truth. He chose the Jewish people to send His messiah and our savior through. His hand has been upon them. Prophecy fulfilled by the fact they are back in the promise land. The actual account ( modern history ) of the 6 day war reads like an Old Testament miraculous victory for Israel. They are currently surrounded by nations who want them eradicated, yet they not only exist, but thrive. Why? I believe the sovereign power of Jehovah. Yes most of them missed the messiah, but they are Gods chosen people and are a part of His plan beginning with Abraham and finishing in revelation with those who will weep over the messiah. Make no mistake, they are still Gods chosen people. as a born again believer, I will stand in support of the Jewish people. It is hard not to when you make your decision based on the whole word of God

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Scott Connell1 year ago

I'm dumbfounded by peoples ignorance in following this "crap" put out by big names of Tucker, Candace and Nick Fuentes (not sure who he is?). Why in the heck don't people just use their God given brains and do a simple search of the history Israel and the Jewish faith? What do Tucker, Owens and Fuentes have to gain in going after Evangelicals and Jews? Ratings? I liked Tucker and Candance a lot, but now something seems to be broken in the their brains! Candance and her theory about the origins of NASA and that astronauts never went to the Moon is out of this world - pun intended!

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Vicki Small1 year ago

I agree, except that what is broken is not in their brains, but in their hearts.

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Monty Mickle1 year ago

Isreal is the only democracy in the Middle East and the Holy Bible originated with them. Radical Islam is the real common enemy of Christianity and Judaism as it has vowed to destroy both

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Bonnie Hissom1 year ago

Some of this is a big surprise to me. I do not follow podcasts. Shocked about Tucker’s stance on this. I’m a firm believer in God’s promise to bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel.

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Paul Bohac1 year ago

I do not understand religious fanaticism in any of its forms. It seems perverse, and truly anti-religious regardless of origin. Perhaps my opinion reflects a simple mind. However one views God, Mohammed, Jesus or other Supreme Deity, and worships the same is and should be a matter of personal choice. It is of no concern to me until and unless the use of force becomes an issue. I would defend anyone's right to practice as they believe provided that doing so does not deprive another of the same opportunity. But to suggest that one is more "right" than another, or to protest the premise of one in favor of another is merely human hubris. Where the nation state of Israel is concerned, their geographic location is justified by history but fraught with peril. It must maintain a state of constant vigilance. What is often ignored is that Israel is a democracy in the midst of kingdoms and autocracies. It is a Western Civilization being preserved with U.S. aide as much as a Jewish State.

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Jamie Baker1 year ago

It is hard not to look at the entire history of the Jewish people and not contend that it is the sovereign hand of God who has protected and preserved them. Ezekiel 20:41-42 along with other scriptures foretold thousands of years prior of what we currently see today. Yes, God has used America to help protect, but it is still His doing. He did not use America during the 6 day war. This is current history and was a miraculous victory for Israel.

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Susan Kurzman1 year ago

Jews have never proselytized, allow Arabs in Knesset and maintain a Democracy. It seems not enough for the world. Tell, me WHAT do Jews have to do in order to exist without offending the greater mass of people on the Earth? Jews are about 0.2% of the total the population on Earth. What is their threat? The main claim to fame might be that their small population allows them to be scapegoated for other's psychoses. Here's an idea: If the Jews are so abhorrent, don't use their innovations. No Polio vaccines, and certainly not the physics based on Einstein's work that developed the nuclear bomb. Go with that, and Iran will not have its centrifuges running. After all, a Jew's work is in its roots.

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George Mattern1 year ago

Ms. Kurzman, as a Conservative Evangelical, I can tell you why there is so much near-universal hatred of and opposition to the Jews: It is because of what Moses told the people, as recorded in Deuteronomy 7:6--"The Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth." The fact that the Jews are God's chosen people enrages His arch-enemy, the fallen and rebellious angel named Satan. And because, in the sovereign permission of God, for a temporary time according to His inscrutable purpose, "The whole world lies in the power of the evil one" (1 John 5:19), it is no wonder that the vast majority of the inhabitants of this world--described by the Apostle John as "the children of the Devil" (1 John 3:10)--express their satanically-inspired hatred of God by hating and seeking to destroy His chosen people. As Jesus once said: "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father" (John 8:44).

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Susan Kurzman1 year ago

Mr. Mattern: I have absolute respect for Evangelical Christianity. I also appreciate your reply. I remit a disclosure; I was confirmed in the Lutheran Church and am not a Jew. So any arguments I submit are from a somewhat ignorant stance concerning Judaism and do not have a great deal of biblical credence, having left religious training at age 13. (My father was a Jew, my mother a Christian, and she raised her children in the Lutheran Church.) At any rate. I've always wondered at the aspect of Jews being "God's chosen people." I might ask, "Chosen for what?" You do point out that, Evangelically, it is because Jews are the "righteous" and the adversary of Satan, perhaps? But what a mantle to be granted. Not exactly an anointment that most would happily accept. At this point, I'll make a crude analogy: Jesus was condemned to the Cross, for the sins of others. The Jew being sacrificed for the faults of the many seems to be a theme. Maybe that is the chosen role of the Jewish people.

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Vicki Small1 year ago

If you read Genesis 12:2-3 you will find God's promise to Abraham: “I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you” (Genesis 12:2–3).

This promise was to be fulfilled through Abraham's son by Sarai (Sarah), although both Abraham and Sarah were very old. Some years after the promise was made, Isaac was born. https://www.gotquestions.org/Abrahamic-covenant.html has a good article on this covenant, referring to later ones and showing how completion of all of them will occur when Christ returns and sets up His Kingdom on earth, in Jerusalem.

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Monty Mickle1 year ago

Amen and right on!

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George Mattern1 year ago

Great interview, Ari. As for those who criticize Evangelicals who support Israel (which includes me), their problem is not with Schofield, their problem is with Moses--and ultimately God Himself, who told Abraham, "I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse" (Genesis 12:3). An antisemitic Christian is the ultimate oxymoron (with heavy emphasis on the "moron" part), because we believe Jesus Christ is the Jewish Messiah ("Christ" being the Greek equivalent of "Messiah"). The Christian Scriptures are replete with references to God's great love for Israel, manifested by the fact that Jesus Christ "is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins" (Acts 5:31). The Apostle Paul stated that the very "gospel" ("good news," from Isaiah 61:1) at the heart of Christianity "is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek" (Romans 1:16).

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Deena Haines1 year ago

The anti-semitic issues is just such a conundrum to me. On the one hand, it’s been around forever. God chose the Jewish people for a special purpose and through them came the Messiah - so they’ve always been targeted. But on the other hand, I don’t get the blind spots! People who are very against racism feel like it’s ok to gang up on the Jews. Just flabbergasts me.

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Monty Mickle1 year ago

Isreal is a faithful ally in a war against the real enemy which is radical Islam. Why would anyone oppose the only democracy in the Middle East,and God's chosen people?! GO ISRAEL AND LONG MAY HER FLAG FLY!

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David McCool1 year ago

Thank you for your work. I don’t get Christians and Jews that are against Israel. It’s nonsensical and unsupportable.

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Susan Kurzman1 year ago

I used to be a huge Tucker fan. But now.... I think he'll do anything for media exposure. (Remember his report on personally experiencing a demonic attack while he slept? Maybe he's now a candidate for Jordan Peterson's diagnosis of psychopathology.) His stand on Israel makes me regret having bought one of his books.

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Rick Flinn1 year ago

Tucker Carlson seems more divisive than positive.

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sharon smith1 year ago

Christianity needs to continue a presence in the "Holy Land", to establish its unending identity with the Biblical stories and their familiar locales. Our religion is full of Middle East drama that children hear about in their Sunday Schools and which they identify with throughout their lives. At least that is how it has been for me, an octogenarian from central NYS. The history that is taking place now is not unlike those incidents in the OT that, except for Psalms permeate most of that part of our Christian Bible. The Quaran tells the same stories, so at least there is an overlap of the main religions of that part of the world. Humans doing what they've been bred to do! A sacrilege? I will never understand how the mothers of children would allow them to be indoctrinated to kill people. But that has been a way of life over the centuries from Roman/Greek times, Was that why Jesus was sent to "save the world"? It's taken centuries and we're still fighting that particular war..

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Vicki Small1 year ago

I am 79 years old, a life-long evangelical Christian who heard of the Scofield Bible when I was young. But I never heard any preaching from it, never had a pastor refer to it but rarely, and it's been decades since I ever did. It has had no influence in my life or my faith. And I support Israel.

As for Nick, whom I'd never heard of, I don't think, before today; Tucker, whom I used to watch, some, on Fox News, but haven't followed since he left there; and Candace, I cannot judge their Christianity except, as Luke said, by their fruit of the Spirit. And their attempts at dividing the Church--and evangelicals in particular--and fomenting anti-Israel opinions (hate) do not speak well for them. Christ's prayer for the disciples and all who would follow was for unity in Him in John 17:20-23. It should be read in the context of the whole High Priestly prayer in John 17.

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Jesseca Elza1 year ago

RB Thieme Jr Bible Ministries has some great literature discussing antisemitism. I would highly recommend two books in particular, “Antisemitism” and “The Angelic Conflict”. All material is available free of charge.

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Mr. B1 year ago

John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

As simple as it might seem, Light exposes darkness. Darkness cannot hide from Light.

John 15:18-21 “If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know the One who sent Me

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Kathryn Murphy1 year ago

Very good interview, Ari. And thank you for reporting on it. I'm here late to the party, as I'm behind in my reading; and have read all the comments. I couldn't agree more and have enjoyed every last one, I am a non-denominational Christian that simply tries to practice my beliefs in the same way as Christ. He summed it up pretty well in my view - to love your neighbor as you would yourself; on this rests all law and the prophets.

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Bonnie Hissom1 year ago

It doesn’t matter what the “talking heads” say, the day we quit supporting Israel is the day America loses God’s blessing. Genesis 12:3, “I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed,” was not written by Schofield. It came directly from God to Abraham. Our support and friendship with Israel is a big reason God has blessed America. We need to be very careful here. Perhaps they don’t fully understand Who they’re dealing with.